“Now you’ve got flash mobs and sky art, like the Climate 350 people who all stood together and made a 350,” he said. “No mining company executive is shaking in his boots when he sees 500 people standing together in a field. It’s about the confrontation. That’s what these actions lack – they’re creative but they’re not creative confrontation.”

“You can stand and fight and do so nonviolently, or you can do so violently,” Roselle said. “The trouble with violence is it’s a sure losing strategy in this country. Martin Luther King set a decent example for how it should be done.”

“When I get out of bed, I want to know who I can (expletive) with?” Roselle said. “When you see they’re violating the last of the roadless areas, or polluting our air and water or killing our life-support system, how can you not be angry? I’ve got to do something to challenge them in order to look at myself.”